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4v4v2

Postby Mr Aedron » 22 Jun 2018, 16:44

Hello,

I have a question regarding rules. I am playing a versailles (anonymous) game & I just got a destroy I cannot understand.

I will do my best to describe the situation: my unit was attacking another center (Austria), supported 3 times. So 4 armies piling up. Now, that center was supported 3 times. So 4v4, I did not take it. But that very center supported another 5th unit against my attacking unit.

Here it is, clearer:
Order set player 1: Hungary to Austria, supported 3 times
Order set player 2: 3 units support Austria to hold
Order set player 2: Austria supports Croatia to Hungary

I was understanding that a unit doing a 4-army move could be destroyed only by a 5+ armies move. I thus struggle to understand by Hungary was destroyed.

Am I missing something?

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Re: 4v4v2

Postby boldblade » 22 Jun 2018, 17:03

Mr Aedron wrote:
I was understanding that a unit doing a 4-army move could be destroyed only by a 5+ armies move. I thus struggle to understand by Hungary was destroyed.



This assumption is only true if the moves are going against each other meaning Austria is attacking Hungary and Hungary is attacking Austria. If Hungary is bounced a supported attack from somewhere else would still succeed.
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Re: 4v4v2

Postby boldblade » 22 Jun 2018, 17:05

Oh an further since you cannot cut support from the center that is being attacked I guess the Austrian support would be successful if they defended your attack.
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Re: 4v4v2

Postby NJLonghorn » 22 Jun 2018, 17:07

A 4-unit move can only be beaten head-on by a 5-unit move. But the moving unit is not supported to hold, so it can be defeated by a supported attack from the side.
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Re: 4v4v2

Postby NJLonghorn » 22 Jun 2018, 17:13

Your situation is covered on page 11 of the Rulebook, under the heading "Dislodgement in Standoffs", illustrated in diagram #12.
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Re: 4v4v2

Postby NJLonghorn » 22 Jun 2018, 17:25

boldblade wrote: ... you cannot cut support from the center that is being attacked ...


That is almost accurate. To cut support from the center that is being attacked, you have to dislodge the supporting unit. Because Hungary didn't dislodge the army in Austria, Austria was still able to support an attack on Hungary. That's diagram 17 (compared with diagram 16) on page 12 of the Rulebook.
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Re: 4v4v2

Postby boldblade » 22 Jun 2018, 17:33

Ok yes.
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