ODC Update - New TDs & Round 2

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Re: ODC Update - New TDs & Round 2

Postby MSC_1914 » 06 Oct 2022, 13:23

GameKat wrote:
Captainmeme wrote:I still need to get results updated; has been a pretty busy few weeks on my end :D

I'll start collecting Round 3 confirmations in 2 weeks time, on the 15th/16th. Games will be set up and sent out 1-2 weeks after that, depending on confirmation speed.

I'm strongly considering ditching the seeding method Malarky had originally defined, as it requires all games in the previous round to be complete prior to the next round being set up, which will make the tournament take forever. Does anyone have any strong views on that?


At this point I think anything that nudges the tourney along is welcome. The slow pace is dissipating its identity.


Nudging the tourney along is something I had the impression would be welcomed by a non-negligible subset of players. Shortening turns might be something to look at here, like, how about we do two day-turns instead of three, as of the next round?
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Re: ODC Update - New TDs & Round 2

Postby Jensen » 06 Oct 2022, 14:43

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Re: ODC Update - New TDs & Round 2

Postby knilgau » 06 Oct 2022, 19:37

MSC_1914 wrote:Nudging the tourney along is something I had the impression would be welcomed by a non-negligible subset of players. Shortening turns might be something to look at here, like, how about we do two day-turns instead of three, as of the next round?


Personally, I would not favor 2-day turns. I like that this tournament doesn't consume my life. That's why I don't join the Nexus Season X tournament.
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Re: ODC Update - New TDs & Round 2

Postby XPatriot11 » 07 Oct 2022, 15:51

I would be in support of 2 day deadlines to speed things up .
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Re: ODC Update - New TDs & Round 2

Postby LilDipper » 07 Oct 2022, 18:36

What about 3-day deadlines but with turns continuing to process over weekends?
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Re: ODC Update - New TDs & Round 2

Postby Jensen » 17 Oct 2022, 23:19

So ... about that round 3?

Round 1 is complete. Seeding can be completed by whatever method the TD chooses. Time to ask for round 3 confirmations?
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Re: ODC Update - New TDs & Round 2

Postby Custer » 17 Oct 2022, 23:35

Lets get this party started!

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Re: ODC Update - New TDs & Round 2

Postby dib » 21 Oct 2022, 14:06

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Re: ODC Update - New TDs & Round 2

Postby knilgau » 21 Oct 2022, 14:26

A quorum of a roughly 70-person tournament is not 20 people.

The main problem isn’t the length of each phase, it’s not starting games and people dropping out of games (which slows the game down immensely). The seeding isn’t delaying this because the first two rounds are completed. I assume CaptainMeme is busy and will send out the Round 3 invites any day. Then Round 4 can be started a few weeks after Round 3 (like Round 2 was supposed to start 3 weeks after Round 1). After those two rounds, the final board is the only remaining round. This could easily wrap up early next year (especially if players choose to finalize orders more often).

Regarding the scoring, everyone who joined agreed to these rules. There are endless scoring debates in the Diplomacy hobby. If we change it, there will be those who don’t like what it is changed to. It would be faster to simply go with things as they are set than try to get some rule changes made and then proceed. If making a change would speed up the tournament, I would be in favor but this would actually slow things down.

Remember, the biggest problem is that the original TD disappeared. CaptainMeme is simply filling in and we wouldn’t have even finished the first two rounds without his intervention.
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Re: ODC Update - New TDs & Round 2

Postby Custer » 21 Oct 2022, 14:27

I agree with all 6 points.

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