WitA: AOE Locations?

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WitA: AOE Locations?

Postby NoPunIn10Did » 06 May 2019, 17:06

WitA Starting Locations for the Age of Empires Variant
I'd like to solicit player feedback on the following list of starting positions for the new War in the Americas map. These would be applicable when it is played using the "Age of Empires" variant (whereby each player starts the game in a build phase controlling one empty SC).

These are all "capital" cities for each power or the closest equivalent. I have not done any preliminary network analysis to determine whether these are actually spread out very well.

Powers & Proposed AOE Locations
  • Argentina
      Buenos Aires
  • Brazil
      Rio de Janeiro
      (Brasilia is the current capital, but Rio was the capital prior, including the 1840 start year for WitA)
  • Chile
      Santiago
  • Great Britain
      Montreal
      (None of Britain's SCs on the map represent a true "capital," but this seemed the best pick)
  • Mexico
      Mexico City
  • New Granada (a.k.a. Colombia)
      Bogotá
  • Peru
      Lima
  • Spain
      Havana
      (Spain only held Cuba and Puerto Rico at this time, and Havana seems the better option)
  • USA
      Washington D.C.
  • Venezuela
      Caracas

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Re: WitA: AOE Locations

Postby AKFD » 06 May 2019, 17:33

This is all great and wonderful, but...

I would suggest putting Britain's starting SC in Halifax.

Putting it in Montreal could cause early conflict between USA and UK.

That's just my suggestion.

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Re: WitA: AOE Locations

Postby NoPunIn10Did » 06 May 2019, 17:57

AKFD wrote:This is all great and wonderful, but...

I would suggest putting Britain's starting SC in Halifax.

Putting it in Montreal could cause early conflict between USA and UK.

That's just my suggestion.

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True, but that should be the case for most/many powers on the map. Or do the others seem more spread out than that?

I really have no idea if Montreal or Halifax is the better location, but Montreal is my best guess. I don't think we can start Britain in any of its other SCs without putting the USA in a position to have almost zero competition in North America.
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Re: WitA: AOE Locations

Postby AKFD » 06 May 2019, 18:54

NoPunIn10Did wrote:
AKFD wrote:This is all great and wonderful, but...

I would suggest putting Britain's starting SC in Halifax.

Putting it in Montreal could cause early conflict between USA and UK.

That's just my suggestion.

AKFD :)


True, but that should be the case for most/many powers on the map. Or do the others seem more spread out than that?

I really have no idea if Montreal or Halifax is the better location, but Montreal is my best guess. I don't think we can start Britain in any of its other SCs without putting the USA in a position to have almost zero competition in North America.


I feel like Mexico has little competition, except Spain, which seems like a minor threat to Mexico.
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Re: WitA: AOE Locations?

Postby asudevil » 06 May 2019, 21:56

I think Mexico is a dominant power in AOE
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Re: WitA: AOE Locations?

Postby NoPunIn10Did » 07 May 2019, 00:30

asudevil wrote:I think Mexico is a dominant power in AOE


This is quite possibly true, but I’m unsure of how to even things out without assigning starting locations outside of those normally designated for each power.
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Re: WitA: AOE Locations?

Postby AKFD » 07 May 2019, 06:20

asudevil wrote:I think Mexico is a dominant power in AOE


I've got to agree.
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Re: WitA: AOE Locations?

Postby NoPunIn10Did » 07 May 2019, 17:38

I have some alternate locations that may space everyone out a bit more evenly. Everyone on the list should be 3-4 spaces away from at least 2 other players.

Proposed AOE Locations, version B
  • Argentina
      Buenos Aires
  • Brazil
      Belo Horizonte
  • Chile
      Valparaiso
  • Great Britain
      Halifax
  • Mexico
      Veracruz
  • New Granada
      Cali
  • Peru
      Cuzco
  • Spain
      Santiago de Cuba
  • USA
      Charleston
  • Venezuela
      Caracas
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Re: WitA: AOE Locations?

Postby AKFD » 08 May 2019, 01:24

NoPunIn10Did wrote:I have some alternate locations that may space everyone out a bit more evenly. Everyone on the list should be 3-4 spaces away from at least 2 other players.

Proposed AOE Locations, version B
  • Argentina
      Buenos Aires
  • Brazil
      Belo Horizonte
  • Chile
      Valparaiso
  • Great Britain
      Halifax
  • Mexico
      Veracruz
  • New Granada
      Cali
  • Peru
      Cuzco
  • Spain
      Santiago de Cuba
  • USA
      Charleston
  • Venezuela
      Caracas


This is way better! AoE locations don't have to be the country's capital as long as it makes the game more balanced!

Nice job NoPun!
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