Variant Proposal: Canton

The Forum for proposing and discussing variant maps which might be nominated for addition to the site.

Variant Proposal: Canton

Postby Enriador » 21 Feb 2019, 22:06

Image

Basic Information:

1. Variant Name: Canton
2. Player Count: 7
3. Short description of the variant's geographic setting & time period: Canton is set in Asia (and small parts of Europe and Africa) at the turn of the century (1901). Seven powers - Britain, China, France, Holland, Japan, Russia and Turkey - battle out for supremacy. The map evokes the conflicts for influence in Manchuria and Korea, the Great game in Central Asia, the struggle for the wealth of Southeast Asia, the hegemony over the Indian and Pacific oceans, among other historical conflicts of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. It was specifically built as an improvement over Avalon Hill's Colonial, seeking to abolish error-prone rules, to ease the interaction between all powers, and to provide a more even playing field - the variant's balance is remarkable, and may be considered more balanced than Classic Diplomacy itself.*
4. Short description of the variant's rules changes: The official Diplomacy rules fully apply to Canton where mechanics (rather than map and unit placement for obvious reasons) are concerned; no special rules are applied.
5. Link or image of an updated version of the map: http://www.dipwiki.com/index.php?title= ... tonmap.gif
6. Link to an updated version of the variant's complete rules: http://www.dipwiki.com/index.php?title=Canton

* More information on Canton's balance is available on Diplomacy World #143, page 29.

Additional Information:

1. This variant has recently got its first game on Discord for the PlayDiplomacy community.*
2. This variant is supported on vDiplomacy.com, the Diplomatic Pouch Judge, and the Android app Conspiracy for a total of 1400+ games played.
3. I have played this variant on vDiplomacy.com, Face-to-Face and Conspiracy.
4. It's set in Asia - no other PlayDiplomacy variant is - and provides a very unique balance between powers, with all seven powers having different unit setups yet a very similar chance at victory. The geopolitical disposition of the various powers is also notably distinguished from current variants on the site.**
5. The ruleset used is Paul Webb's latest & final ruleset for the variant, released in 2004.

* More information on the Canton game being played on Discord: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=59359.

** More information on the strategical possibilities of Canton is available on the Diplomatic Pouch Zine Fall Movement 2018 issue, article "Variant Overview: Canton".
Last edited by Enriador on 24 Mar 2019, 22:15, edited 2 times in total.
Enriador
 
Posts: 40
Joined: 06 Jul 2016, 07:11
Class: Diplomat
Standard rating: (974)
All-game rating: (975)
Timezone: GMT

Re: Variant Proposal: Canton

Postby Gun » 22 Feb 2019, 00:35

Looks great. Similar to the Colonial map, but less complex? I'd like to play it.
User avatar
Gun
 
Posts: 290
Joined: 21 Mar 2015, 17:48
Location: Shropshire, United Kingdom
Class: Star Ambassador
Standard rating: 1533
All-game rating: 2191
Timezone: GMT

Re: Variant Proposal: Canton

Postby NoPunIn10Did » 22 Feb 2019, 02:44

I am hoping to assist Enriador in recruiting some PlayDip regulars to try it out on vDip, possibly using Discord for communication.
Forum Admin & New Variant Development Assistant

Variant GM & Designer
User avatar
NoPunIn10Did
Premium Member
 
Posts: 2785
Joined: 17 Aug 2011, 00:17
Location: North Carolina
Class: Ambassador
Standard rating: 1000
All-game rating: 1445
Timezone: GMT-5

Re: Variant Proposal: Canton

Postby NoPunIn10Did » 08 Apr 2019, 18:53

If this does eventually come up for voting, I will create a new map for it in the style of Hundred and some of the other proposed maps for this site.

I previously created this draft of Colonial, and I'm providing it here solely as a visual reference. To be clear, the borders and SC locations would be redrawn to match those from Canton, but this is otherwise similar stylistically to what the game map might look like from an aesthetic standpoint.

None of this is finalized, of course, but I hope other players interested in potential new maps will find this helpful.

Image
Forum Admin & New Variant Development Assistant

Variant GM & Designer
User avatar
NoPunIn10Did
Premium Member
 
Posts: 2785
Joined: 17 Aug 2011, 00:17
Location: North Carolina
Class: Ambassador
Standard rating: 1000
All-game rating: 1445
Timezone: GMT-5

Re: Variant Proposal: Canton

Postby NoPunIn10Did » 10 Apr 2019, 21:31

Draft of Potential Unit Icons for Canton

Image
Forum Admin & New Variant Development Assistant

Variant GM & Designer
User avatar
NoPunIn10Did
Premium Member
 
Posts: 2785
Joined: 17 Aug 2011, 00:17
Location: North Carolina
Class: Ambassador
Standard rating: 1000
All-game rating: 1445
Timezone: GMT-5

Re: Variant Proposal: Canton

Postby Groo » 12 Apr 2019, 00:58

Love the units and the colors, NoPun! Thank god Holland is Orange!

Map also looks neat, but a bit squished. Shouldn't it be a bit more stretched horizontally?
"If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need."

Cornubia in Heptarchy 14 - 3WD
Front Range in Emergence - 3WD
Holland in Colonial 7 - 3WD
House Baratheon in Diplomacy of Ice and Fire - Mad King SOLO
Mexico in WiTA 7 - stabbed to death
Thebes in Greek City States IV
User avatar
Groo
 
Posts: 257
Joined: 14 Nov 2016, 18:13
Class: Star Ambassador
Standard rating: (1612)
All-game rating: (1880)
Timezone: GMT

Re: Variant Proposal: Canton

Postby NoPunIn10Did » 12 Apr 2019, 02:13

Groo wrote:Love the units and the colors, NoPun! Thank god Holland is Orange!

Map also looks neat, but a bit squished. Shouldn't it be a bit more stretched horizontally?


The proportions on that draft were what I was working with on Colonial, when I was assuming we had a 900 pixel limit (instead of 1080). Colonial wasn’t going to fit in that width well, so I increased the vertical dimensions of the draft to provide higher area-per space.

I don’t believe any of that would be necessary for Canton.
Forum Admin & New Variant Development Assistant

Variant GM & Designer
User avatar
NoPunIn10Did
Premium Member
 
Posts: 2785
Joined: 17 Aug 2011, 00:17
Location: North Carolina
Class: Ambassador
Standard rating: 1000
All-game rating: 1445
Timezone: GMT-5

Re: Variant Proposal: Canton

Postby NoPunIn10Did » 01 May 2019, 17:57

Canton did not win the April 2019 election for a new variant, but it is eligible to be voted on again in future elections.
Forum Admin & New Variant Development Assistant

Variant GM & Designer
User avatar
NoPunIn10Did
Premium Member
 
Posts: 2785
Joined: 17 Aug 2011, 00:17
Location: North Carolina
Class: Ambassador
Standard rating: 1000
All-game rating: 1445
Timezone: GMT-5

Re: Variant Proposal: Canton

Postby sroca » 22 Jul 2020, 18:22

NoPunIn10Did, how did you do the relief type texture on that map?
Hebrews 3:7-8a (ESV)
"Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says, 'Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts...'"

Please donate funds to the site for its extended operation. Here is the link: http://www.playdiplomacy.com/premium.php
User avatar
sroca
 
Posts: 1676
Joined: 22 May 2008, 22:30
Location: Georgia, USA
Class: Star Ambassador
Standard rating: (1117)
All-game rating: (1279)
Timezone: GMT-5

Re: Variant Proposal: Canton

Postby sroca » 23 Jul 2020, 14:15

Can I get some critiques on a new version of the map?

I'll have to rectify the territory colors with the proposed icons/colors, but I wanted to have y'all take a look at the map first.

canton_revised.png
canton_revised.png (471.61 KiB) Viewed 4191 times
Hebrews 3:7-8a (ESV)
"Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says, 'Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts...'"

Please donate funds to the site for its extended operation. Here is the link: http://www.playdiplomacy.com/premium.php
User avatar
sroca
 
Posts: 1676
Joined: 22 May 2008, 22:30
Location: Georgia, USA
Class: Star Ambassador
Standard rating: (1117)
All-game rating: (1279)
Timezone: GMT-5

Next

Return to New Map Variant Proposals & Voting

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest