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Re: New Player: Kingdom of Deseret

Postby mat.gopack » 30 Aug 2019, 15:28

Vogelhut24 wrote:For those wondering about the constitutional convention. Only members of the nobility can vote for which their is about 400. Every member gets one vote total. Those 400 are divided more or less into political factions under much more powerful nobles. At this vote the members of the nobility will make laws for the new constitution based on the legal rights of the peasantry. The major factions are
The kings party - for social liberation of peasants, pro immigration and foreigner rights.
The White Family - Religious laws and absolute monarchical power, anti immigration and foreigner rights.
The Holt Family- For economic conservationism and privatization. pro immigration and foreigner rights.
The Grey Family- for Social liberation of peasants, anti immigration and foreigner rights.
The of Boise Family- For absolute monarchical power, pro immigration and foreigner rights.

So it's a 1 noble, 1 vote system with no distinction for actual amounts of territory/power then? Interesting. Are there venal nobles (upstart nobles who paid their way to a title sold by the state to make some cash) included?
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Re: New Player: Kingdom of Deseret

Postby Vogelhut24 » 30 Aug 2019, 15:59

mat.gopack wrote:
Vogelhut24 wrote:For those wondering about the constitutional convention. Only members of the nobility can vote for which their is about 400. Every member gets one vote total. Those 400 are divided more or less into political factions under much more powerful nobles. At this vote the members of the nobility will make laws for the new constitution based on the legal rights of the peasantry. The major factions are
The kings party - for social liberation of peasants, pro immigration and foreigner rights.
The White Family - Religious laws and absolute monarchical power, anti immigration and foreigner rights.
The Holt Family- For economic conservationism and privatization. pro immigration and foreigner rights.
The Grey Family- for Social liberation of peasants, anti immigration and foreigner rights.
The of Boise Family- For absolute monarchical power, pro immigration and foreigner rights.

So it's a 1 noble, 1 vote system with no distinction for actual amounts of territory/power then? Interesting. Are there venal nobles (upstart nobles who paid their way to a title sold by the state to make some cash) included?


Nobility in Deseret is merely a titular title. Only the king owns land though he may lease it out to vasles to oversee. Currently no Venesians except the heirs wife Catherine and her uncle Dmitri have noble status in the kingdom.
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Re: New Player: Kingdom of Deseret

Postby Vogelhut24 » 31 Aug 2019, 02:15

Current laws of Deseret
The law of war: The slaughter of innocents is dishonorable. Murder of innocence and non- combatants should be kept to a minimum. Member of nobility should not be slaughtered in warfare.
The law of sex: Women should stay in the private home sphere fore the public sphere is for men.
Law of chastity: The act of adultery or premarital sexist a felony and punishable by penalty of death. A women virtue is for her husband and the female sex is inferior to men.
The law of nobility: All nobles are superior to that of the lowborn population. A man and his decedents can become noble through the marriage of a noble or a personal appointment by the king.
The law of succession: The first-born male son of the king should inherent. In the case of their being no male son, an uncle takes precedent over a daughter.
The law of power: All property of the kingdom is owned by the king with it being his digression to distribute for a certain period of time.
The law of religion: All citizens shall follow the state governed religion of Mormonism with the King being the head of the faith followed by the head priest. Any non-believers or heretics shall be met with exile or execution.
The law of Loyalty: All lowborn citizens of the kingdom are the subject of the king. Any defection or insubordination is a felony shall be met with the penalty of death.
The law of Indulgent: the use and sale of narcotics or alcohol is illegal and will be met with 40 lashes of the whip.
The law of citizenship: All members of the Mormon faith who swear fealty to the faith shall be born citizens of Deseret. Foreigners and followers of foreign religions are barred from citizenship.
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Re: New Player: Kingdom of Deseret

Postby jonisilk » 31 Aug 2019, 06:06

Your Grace,

I can see how some might say, that these current laws could be argued as in need of a little reform. I'm sure you have certain ideas in mind already, and we only offer the following as possible suggestions.

The "law of sex", might be one that we'll come back to,as would the "law of chastity", as there have been some changes in the current thinking on the matter that might be worth taking into consideration, should you find the time.

We quite like the "law of war" and feel that if war should be fought, then to do so in this manner would be most preferable.

The Corporation would also certainly approve of the death-penalty being taken off the table as a punishment for... almost everything.

As for the rest, well, we'll take it a step at a time shall we? Wouldn't want to bring too much change too fast. "Small pebbles, big ripples", and all that.

I'm sure we'll get plenty of time to discuss things further on my visit for the royal wedding.

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Re: New Player: Kingdom of Deseret

Postby Vogelhut24 » 31 Aug 2019, 06:45

Prince Tyler was terrified. Amelia, his wife, he was still going to have to get use to that, told him that before they returned to the kingdom of Deseret for the constitutional convention, they were going to stop in Ceona, For a private meeting with her great grandfather. Tyler had heard in Cairo about this mans… colored past. A man dedicated to law and order, regardless of the consequences. A dictator fueled by hatred and ego. At least, that’s how his brother’s wife, Catherine told him. Amelia told a different story. She told him about how he was the son of a Grand Admiral of the Star Armada during the Belt War, who was wrongfully imprisoned and tortured by his enemies. James Astor as he was once known as believed in protecting his nation at all cost, especially from the Venusian menace. Tyler originally wanted to dislike this man, but after what Amelia told him, it kind of made sense. The Venusians had done nothing but harm the kingdom of Deseret so far, breaking the law of war, and slaughtering millions as they had done to Ceona as well. Federation or Empire, the Venusians had butchered their way across the solar system, enslaving their own people and massacring any opposition. Tyler looked down at his new arm, perhaps if Ceona can create this technology, maybe they’ve done something right. Perhaps with their help, he could convince his brother and father to reconsider the faith they’ve put in them. If Deseret’s not careful, they will suffer even more tragedies like Grand Junction.
The ship landed Infront of the imperial palace. It was just like Taylor castle, but more advance. The Ceona Military guarded both sides of the ship as a red carpet was rolled out towards the palace. Amelia grabbed Tyler’s hand “come on, the emperor is waiting.”
Tyler followed Amelia to a large dark room. Pitch black with no sound. Then suddenly, a voice appeared from the darkness
“We’ve been expecting you, prince of Deseret.”
Suddenly, neon lights appeared around the great hall, fireworks bursting indoors, and holographic roars of lions and soldiers saluting at the edge of the room as a spotlight flared onto the throne, revealing a man.
This man, was not what Tyler was expecting, he thought he would be, well older. Amelia had told him that this man was centuries old, but he didn’t look a day over 40. Dressed in robes so elaborate it would make king William Taylor the greedy blush.
Amelia obediently kneeled in his presence. Tyler did not move though. Taylor's do not kneel.
The emperor was clearly displeased by this, but if there was anger, he could not tell. This was a man with experience hiding his true feelings and intentions, Tyler did not doubt.
“you should show more respect to me boy, I could have you and your kingdom crushed in minutes if I so pleased. No matter, I will forgive this act of insolence for I am nothing if not merciful. I have use for you.”
“what is it that you desire from me your grace?” Tyler asked.
“Much, though not for public ears to hear. And you will do as I say, else you want the truth to come out about Deseret.”
Tyler gulped, what the hell had he gotten himself into.
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Re: New Player: Kingdom of Deseret

Postby beadsman » 03 Sep 2019, 02:21

The meeting with the Emperor had been, well, overwhelming to Prince Tyler. The Emperor was a stern man, and clearly not one to take situations lightly. The private meeting had truthfully only filled Tyler with more questions, but he understood one thing very clearly: the Emperor had not been bluffing. The information he had could tear a rift through the kingdom of Deseret, and he didn't strike Tyler as the type unwilling to use it.

After the private meeting, Tyler was escorted to a small, simple chamber. Unlike most of the rooms in the palace, this was very utilitarian and elegant. Most of the rooms were, to put it bluntly, almost unfashionably extravagant. It was all overkill. The drapes were all red and purple silk, the rooms were filled with (often unnecessary) gold and platinum furnishings, and everything smelled vaguely of lavender. This room, however, was adorned only by a long, black table, many bright lights, and countless tasteful cupboards, drawers, and computer monitors in the walls. There were no windows. This was clearly some kind of simple medical room for the palace.

There was a strange, humanoid machine standing in the corner when Tyler entered the room. Amelia was permitted to stay, but his escort left the two of them while they waited outside. After a moment, the gleaming chrome figure woke from its slumber.

"Greetings, Prince Tyler of Deseret! I am Imperial Automated Nurse 79, but you can call me Ian. How are we feeling today, Prince Tyler?" The voice sounded almost perfectly human.

Tyler was dumbfounded. A machine? Capable of such thought? He'd seen some strange things, and even heard of such creations, but this was still new. "Uh, I'm doing well, I suppose." Ian chuckled."No worries, Tyler. You are in the very best hands in Ceona! Yes, I know you are probably not used to a self-aware machine like me, but honestly, I'm just like a normal person. I've just been designed to be very good at what I do, and I love my job! How are you enjoying the palace? The Emperor likes things a little too fancy, if you ask me. Thankfully, I was able to convince him that I operate most optimally in a simple environment. He listened to me, so I get to have my place be the way I like it. So, I hear you have arrived with a few new cybernetic enhancements! May I please see them?"

Amelia helped Tyler to open up the briefcase containing his new eye and new arm. She flashed him a shy smile, one of the first times he'd really seen her show any kind of emotion since meeting her. Ian gasped. As least, as much as a robotic construct can gasp. "Oh, these are beautiful! I'm honestly a bit jealous myself. I never get any truly cool tech myself. What I wouldn't give for a pair of pieces of robotic art like these! Now, I'll need you to go to sleep, and the installation operation will be over before you know it." At this, Ian's arms split into four distinct appendages. One approached Tyler with an attachment that looked like some kind of mask. No sooner had it touched Tyler's face than the prince began to fall asleep.

He awoke what seemed like minutes later. Everything felt completely normal, except for one thing: he could see again! A little while later, and he realized he could even feel his arm! Ian leaned over the table. "I see you're awake! You have several things you can now do that were imposible for you before. You are more than you were. For example, notice this computer on your arm? That will control everything you can now do. I think you'll have a lot of fun playing around with it. Now, I just need to show you how to remove and attach your implants should the need arise. Knowing your new assignment, I suspect it might."

Over the next two days, Tyler got used to his new arm and eye. He rather liked Ian. He was friendly and approachable. Whenever he had a question about what his implants could do, Ian was quick to answer. If he ever wasn't feeling his best, Ian would know before Tyler even said anything, and would find the perfect remedy.

As he was about to leave, he was approached one last time by Ian. "It will truly be a shame to see you go, Prince Tyler. Don't forget me, please. I know I'll remember you." Tyler smiled. He had felt at home for the first time since being in Deseret thanks to this strange doctor. "I won't, Ian. Thank you."
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Re: New Player: Kingdom of Deseret

Postby Vogelhut24 » 05 Sep 2019, 00:11

With the support of Ceona, PCG, and other foreign powers, along with the decimation of the king for land expatiation and and impassioned speech by Maximus Sohl on the merits of economic liberation, the popularity of the kings family has skyrocketed, drowning out the support for any other political faction in the constitutional convention. A final speech by Prince Jack on the liberation of women and religious freedom
"Lords of Deseret, this is a time for change. How can we advance as a nation and create a foothold on the world stage, if 50% of our population is meant to stay home. I know what the religious doctrine says, but this doctrine is wrong. religious dogma and the execution of anyone with new ideas has stagnated this kingd-"
This Hathem White finally snap. "By all the laws of god this has to stop, you and your foreign whore has corrupted this great kingdom, destroying everything we as a people stand for. Cowering behind the action of foreigners corrupting Deseret, massacring our population while you do nothing, Maximus fought for the preservation of our sovereignty and you murdered him for it. I will not stand for it"
"No you won't" A silence falls the room. King Bryan stands up
"Haythem White, you and your way of life is over. An insult to the next queen, bringing up of a traitors name, and blaming the monarchy for slaughtering its people. Detain him."
The guards grab Haythem
"As my last act as an absolute monarchy, I King Bryan of House Taylor, King of Deseret, strip you of all titles and holdings, of all name and salvation from damnation, and send Haythem White to death. Your execution will be on the morrow, and the position of High Priest shall be eradicated and the White family banished from Deseret. Take him away."
"Your grace please, no i didn't mean it, spare me please!" The guards drag Haythem away Screaming.
The convention room is silent.
"Continue my son."
The day of the convention continues, but no one else talks out against the Taylors.
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Re: New Player: Kingdom of Deseret

Postby Vogelhut24 » 05 Sep 2019, 00:46

The constitution has been created and ratified. The document is forever changing and changes may occur.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16sZ ... sp=sharing
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Re: New Player: Kingdom of Deseret

Postby Subotai45 » 05 Sep 2019, 03:10

The Church of the Great Pantheon in Deseret has chosen to hold their meetings in the open air to avoid the tax on religious buildings.
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Re: New Player: Kingdom of Deseret

Postby Subotai45 » 05 Sep 2019, 22:43

Vogelhut24 wrote:This Hathem White finally snap. "By all the laws of god this has to stop, you and your foreign whore has corrupted this great kingdom, destroying everything we as a people stand for. Cowering behind the action of foreigners corrupting Deseret, massacring our population while you do nothing, Maximus fought for the preservation of our sovereignty and you murdered him for it. I will not stand for it"


"The great argument in favor of the nobility is the existence of a more refined, educated, and loyal class to administer the state, free from the whims of the rabble that would swiftly drive it into ruin to increase their short-term electoral prospects. The utter lack of decorum expressed by the former noble Hanthem White is an example of the classlessness we expect from a peasant, not one of the king's closest vassals. Further, his disloyalty in invoking the name of the would-be regicide, the leader of an unlawful rebellion, is utterly inexcusable, and death is the only just solution to prevent his further conspiracies to the throne."

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