Saving a game for later game viewing after 18 months.

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Saving a game for later game viewing after 18 months.

Postby marotta » 06 Jul 2019, 07:04

I am told that the board images for games disappear after 18 months. I'd like to be able to save game images before 18 months, and I am trying to determine a method for doing this.
I tried using WinHTTrack to download and archive all of the links one or two links away from a game order history page, e.g. https://www.playdiplomacy.com/game_hist ... _id=142556
But I could not get WinHTTrack's userid and password accepted by playdiplomacy

Another idea I had was to download every possible image in a game, cycling thought Build, Order, Retreat, e.g.

https://www.playdiplomacy.com/games/1/1 ... 56-9-R.png
https://www.playdiplomacy.com/games/1/1 ... 56-9-B.png
https://www.playdiplomacy.com/games/1/1 ... 6-10-O.png
https://www.playdiplomacy.com/games/1/1 ... 6-10-R.png
https://www.playdiplomacy.com/games/1/1 ... 6-11-O.png
https://www.playdiplomacy.com/games/1/1 ... 6-11-B.png

This will archive the images, but you would still have to visit the PlayDiplomacy site to see the moves that were made.

Additionally, none of these images actually show the moves as they were ordered like the "Show Order Graphics" does. That is a very nice display, but you can't see that from the archives.

I don't think there is any "game export" feature and then "game view" software, is there?

Does anyone have a brilliant idea?
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David John Marotta
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Re: Saving a game for later game viewing after 18 months.

Postby super_dipsy » 06 Jul 2019, 07:12

Once upon a time I was looking at taking all the maps and orders and (your) messages from a game and saving them as one big pdf so that players could if they wish save those PDFs for their own records. But I'm afraid it never got finished :(

As things stand, the only way to do this is exactly what you did. Save each map, save the order history below each map (so you can see both) and then if you want to you can save your message views in the same way. If you want the arrows, then save the order history map for each move, this is the one with the arrows on. But a lot of work, I know.
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Re: Saving a game for later game viewing after 18 months.

Postby dib » 06 Jul 2019, 12:18

Less time consuming. I made a quick video of a game ...with pretty good results. if its mac i just used quicktime I wish I had done it for older games before they disappeared.

1. Go to your game
2. Open Order history window
3. Open Spring 1901
4. Zoom in the browser to 400% so you can just see the arrows of moves on the map
5. While recording You can then scroll through using the next previous buttons... you see the maps with the visual arrows on so you can see the moves e.g. Bounce in Black Sea etc...
6. I was going to add some commentary but actually you can get a good idea of what happened how everyone opened etc... and how you either triumphed or goofed.
7 You can then use some software to reduce the size of the video file i used Handbrake

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Re: Saving a game for later game viewing after 18 months.

Postby MasterGR » 08 Jul 2019, 00:44

Superdipsy, I would think there's a fairly easy coding solution to this. If you just save the orders for each game, I would guess that you should be able to regenerate the maps on the fly by just simulating the orders again. Is that not the case?
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Re: Saving a game for later game viewing after 18 months.

Postby super_dipsy » 08 Jul 2019, 20:58

MasterGR wrote:Superdipsy, I would think there's a fairly easy coding solution to this. If you just save the orders for each game, I would guess that you should be able to regenerate the maps on the fly by just simulating the orders again. Is that not the case?

The orders for the game are saved - that is why they always appear in the game regardless whether the maps have been deleted or not.

Submitting the orders again means that every time someone wants to do that, they invoke all the code to rerun the judge and generate the maps all over again. Generating the maps is very heavy duty work on the system. That is why we limit the number of games we process in any 3 minute window. Giving players the oppotunity to do it whenever they way would mean a totally uncontrolled load for the server.

I do not see what the problem is with saving the maps when you are playing. You can just screenshot every Orders page with the Orders and map ans arrows. Then the load and the storage required is on your device, not on the server.
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Re: Saving a game for later game viewing after 18 months.

Postby MasterGR » 09 Jul 2019, 06:18

Sounds good, I didn’t realize that resolving the orders is heavy work for the system!
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