Russian Roulette Mafia (D2)

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Re: Russian Roulette Mafia (D1)

Postby Nanook » 04 Sep 2019, 19:30

I retract my fuck off.

And sorry Telleo, I accidentally screwed you :oops:
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Re: Russian Roulette Mafia (D1)

Postby sjg11 » 04 Sep 2019, 20:07

Ok, so... processing...

1. Nook screwed over Telleo.
2. My instinct is that this is more likely to be an honest mistake than an attempt at manipulation.
3. I agree that we should kill the Jester if they reveal. I also think it is in the Jester's best interests to reveal now rather than later when it could actually screw over the town.
4. i get a similar twinge to kim about Aes's first post but it's very minor.
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Re: Russian Roulette Mafia (D1)

Postby UFO Fever » 04 Sep 2019, 20:35

I’m not getting an Aes ping at all from his post. The rules specifically mention that someone could die from the gun, and say the bullet names/effects change each day. I highly doubt Shadow gave the scumteam the name of each bullet of every single game day right during night 0. And I also came in here with the assumption that the gun can kill someone every single day.
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Re: Russian Roulette Mafia (D1)

Postby kimpossible » 04 Sep 2019, 20:57

Yeah, that progression reads to me as sincere from Nanook. He fucked over Telleo, but he didn't do it intentionally. Which also kinda gives me a townlean there, because scum knew going into D1 what the names of the bullets in the gun would be today, which means if Nanook is scum, he would have realized it was just the one shared gun. I think. Pretty sure. If he's scum he either really really fucked up understanding the mechanic, or he's more manipulative than I imagined.

UFO: I mean, I kinda assumed the gun probably could kill someone every day, it's more a feeling that people tend to talk about stuff they know, even unintentionally. A subconscious bias to talk about the contents of the gun by someone who knew what they were. It's tiny and it's not even something I'd vote on, but it's where the ping is coming from.
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Re: Russian Roulette Mafia (D1)

Postby Aeschines » 04 Sep 2019, 21:04

UFO Fever wrote:I’m not getting an Aes ping at all from his post. The rules specifically mention that someone could die from the gun, and say the bullet names/effects change each day. I highly doubt Shadow gave the scumteam the name of each bullet of every single game day right during night 0. And I also came in here with the assumption that the gun can kill someone every single day.


I'm glad we're on the same page! I took one look at that and was like "no way am I shooting myself." But maybe I'm just boring and not enough of a risk taker.

To get to some scumhunting though, my vote would currently be on Fatmo. I think his disinclination to kill the Jester could be genuine (hence I'm not actually voting him) but I want to hear him explicate that a little bit more. The jester reveal seems like a mechanical advantage and I would like to hear in clearer detail why he's opposed to that. We certainly don't have much information at this stage though.

I'm also giving Nook a pretty decent townlean, if not a townread. I don't think that kind next-level trickery makes sense for scum. It would just be too many layers.
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Re: Russian Roulette Mafia (D1)

Postby Conq » 04 Sep 2019, 21:10

Why are you assuming that Nook actually took three shots?

Sometimes people lie.

What is more likely?

(1) Scum lied about taking three shots to make people think that they don't care about their own continued existence in this mortal world?

(2) Town started the game by taking three effing shots.

I think (1) is more likely.

Also, when I noticed the Day 1 start, I also fired one shot. I will not reveal the result, but figured I should let y'all know.
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Re: Russian Roulette Mafia (D1)

Postby Nanook » 04 Sep 2019, 21:16

Conq

Until we get a jester claim.
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Re: Russian Roulette Mafia (D1)

Postby Nanook » 04 Sep 2019, 21:18

IF ANYONE ELSE SHOT THE GUN, NOW IS THE TIME TO SAY IT
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Re: Russian Roulette Mafia (D1)

Postby kimpossible » 04 Sep 2019, 21:22

Sooo... if Conq and Nanook are both to be believed, then Telleo emptied the remainder of the gun on himself. Faaaaaantastic.

Conq, did you also think you had your very own private gun and that taking a shot without telling anyone wouldn't affect anyone else's decision making?
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Re: Russian Roulette Mafia (D1)

Postby Nanook » 04 Sep 2019, 21:25

If you're going to accuse me of lying, you're going to have to explain the benefit of lying.
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