But is it meta?

Rules for using the site and playing on site.

But is it meta?

Postby MeatPopsicle » 07 Jun 2018, 07:23

Have a hypothetical question about meta-gaming.

Suppose you're in a game, and you have a premium account, and you investigate the player ranking of someone else in the game. That seems fine to me so far -- you just know who you're playing against, right?

But then ... suppose you promote an alliance *based* on that information?

This is probably a really old question, and I apologize for the repetition. But it is generally considered "fair game" to point out to your allies that an opponent is a highly ranked player (who -- wouldn't it be great -- get knocked down a few pegs)? Or does that cross the line of "cross-game information sharing"?

thanks in advance,
User avatar
Posts: 86
Joined: 11 Aug 2013, 10:37
Class: Star Ambassador
Standard rating: (1436)
All-game rating: (1416)
Timezone: GMT

Re: But is it meta?

Postby duckling » 07 Jun 2018, 08:23

Lots of people on this site know each other, and adjust their play to what they know.
Seeking out alliances with people you know or trust is technically meta-gaming, but not considered cheating, AFAIK.
(You’re not guaranteed they will go with you)

Trying to ally against them, to secure a win or draw, isn’t a problem either. (I can’t win against X alone, better get some help)

But you indicate that you would do so to hurt the player, not win the game.

In my book, that’s beyond reasonable use of information since your goal is now outside of the game.
Posts: 142
Joined: 06 Jan 2010, 17:48
Class: Star Ambassador
Standard rating: (1130)
All-game rating: (1176)
Timezone: GMT+1

Re: But is it meta?

Postby sinnybee » 07 Jun 2018, 12:16

Besides pre-arranged alliances, which are a huge no-no, the leadership here only really has pushed to remind of a 20% rule, which is a limit on how often you should generally ally with someone in the long-term.
There isn't really a hard rule against being enemies with someone.
Gold Classicist since 1-11-11
FT Asst GM of 35 player WWIV Aug 2011-Feb 2012
#1 ranked player of playdip early 2013
4th highest forum karma count at Apr 2013 ending (behind Craw, Dipsy, and Rick)
Tournament Director of the 31 game PDVT Feb-Dec 2014, the first playdip tourney with over 100 sign-ups
User avatar
Posts: 6097
Joined: 03 Sep 2010, 07:01
Class: Ambassador
Standard rating: (1332)
All-game rating: (1467)
Timezone: GMT-7

Re: But is it meta?

Postby Nanook » 07 Jun 2018, 14:21

It’s debatably skeevy, and frowned on by some, but it’s not against the rules to ally against a player because they have a high rating. As long as you don’t point to specific games of theirs as reason to ally against them, it’s allowed.

On a personal level I would say don’t do that, it’s a crappy way to play the game. But on a mod level, yeah, it’s not considered cheating.
Platinum Classicist
(h/t lordelindel)

User avatar
Posts: 11172
Joined: 19 Jun 2014, 19:52
Location: Florida
Class: Star Ambassador
Standard rating: (1209)
All-game rating: (1413)
Timezone: GMT-5

Re: But is it meta?

Postby Pootleflump » 07 Jun 2018, 15:13

*learns new word*

adj. Sleazy, disgusting, distasteful, shady, gross, creepy, icky. This slang word was popular in Brooklyn, NY, USA in the 1950's and 1960's. It comes from the Italian word Schifo; meaning, 'disgust'.

Thank you Professor Nook.

I rise to the challenge of trying to incorporate it somehow into this afternoon's meeting.
User avatar
Posts: 535
Joined: 28 Feb 2017, 22:21
Location: Scotland
Class: Star Ambassador
Standard rating: 1761
All-game rating: 1839
Timezone: GMT

Return to Site Rules

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest