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Failure to Finalize

PostPosted: 05 Jan 2017, 17:26
by kaptkidd6
Site novice, if I order all of my units but neglect to finalize before the turn expires, does that count as NMR and all units hold?

Re: Failure to Finalize

PostPosted: 05 Jan 2017, 17:33
by Carebear
No

Re: Failure to Finalize

PostPosted: 05 Jan 2017, 18:13
by mikeoregan
Finalizing is just a way to say that you are amenable to orders being processed before the deadline.
If all players who are required to enter orders for a phase finalize, then the system will process all the orders immediately.
But if just one player does not finalize then the system waits until the deadline to process.
It's just a way to speed up the game, particularly towards the end of a game or in retreat phases.

Either way as long as you have entered any order, you will not NMR.

Do not feel under any obligation to finalize. Especially if you are in the middle of negotiations with someone,
which you should almost always be :-)

Re: Failure to Finalize

PostPosted: 05 Jan 2017, 18:24
by Carebear
Thanks for putting a fuller explanation out there. I was working from phone earlier.

CB

Re: Failure to Finalize

PostPosted: 20 Jan 2017, 00:46
by PeregrineFlight
Hi, I'm new to the PlayDip interface.
Is it possible to tell which players have finalized and which have not?
Thanks

Re: Failure to Finalize

PostPosted: 20 Jan 2017, 00:52
by WHSeward
No, it is not. Timing of entry of orders is purposely confidential to protect negotiations.

Re: Failure to Finalize

PostPosted: 20 Jan 2017, 07:08
by ColonelApricot
Not directly anyway. If you finalise and then processing commences immediately then everyone else must have finalised before you did. In a retreat phase (or rarely a build phase) if there is only one player affected then you will know when that player finalised. Delay can of course be due to many reasons including negotiations, complexity of problem solving, being asleep, restricted availability, pure laziness, or lollygagging to name but a few.

All of this is potentially useful information, perhaps more so in specialised variants such as Fog of war or Versailles.

Re: Failure to Finalize

PostPosted: 21 Jun 2017, 23:14
by EnderSE15
Anyone know of a bug in which everyone finalises (including a player with no units left on the board but yet to be formally eliminated), but the deadline still doesn't process? (Everyone says they're finalised, and nobody has any incentive to lie about it...)

Re: Failure to Finalize

PostPosted: 21 Jun 2017, 23:34
by WHSeward
There is no such bug. Someone is lying or made a mistake.