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Games impacted by cheating

Postby Martialist » 21 Sep 2017, 16:57

Following a successful cheating investigation that led to accounts being suspended for multi-accounting, one month later, I find my ranking still negatively affected by my loss in a game directly involved in this case. I recall reading somewhere in the Forum that such games are de-ranked. Am I wrong?
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Re: Games impacted by cheating

Postby WHSeward » 21 Sep 2017, 17:08

All games are not unranked due to accounts cheating, rather the cheater hunters make a judgment on each game whether the cheating impacted the result of the game in question. If you have a specific game that you would like them to reconsider, post in the Cheater forum for a review.
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Re: Games impacted by cheating

Postby WarSmith » 21 Sep 2017, 21:19

This is one of my cases and just looking at a couple of the games again now I think Martialist has a point.
The investigation went on for a while after the initial ban as we tried to ascertain the level and comsistency of the cheating and where it occurred, and there were a lot of games affected. But there are a couple of completed games I can see there where I perhaps should've unranked and somehow initially missed. Perhaps it was the sheer scale of this case.
I'm responding in my mobile now - will have more time to look into this tomorrow. Thanks for alerting me to it!
I'll lock the thread for now and post in the cheaters forum when I'm done.
Like WHS says though - it's not a given that a de-rank is the most appropriate action, we'll judge each case on its merits and try to be fair.
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Re: Games impacted by cheating

Postby WarSmith » 21 Sep 2017, 21:37

I managed to do everything i needed to on my phone :)
I also posted in the cheaters forum.
Thanks for the warning! All fixed now and you should notice your stats improve.
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Re: Games impacted by cheating

Postby gareth66 » 28 Sep 2017, 17:24

Just to add to what has been said, the decision to unrank is based on a judgement about the impact that cheating has had on a game. We don't do it automatically just because cheaters were found in a game - they may have been inept cheaters, or caught early enough to minimise damage. But if a cheater wins as a direct result of cheating, or if at least one innocent player has had their game fundamentally destroyed as a direct result of the cheating, that is when we will unrank.
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